Years ago, I suppose I felt it was my duty to insure that people did not deceive themselves or proceed along a path without all the information. If I knew something and someone did not, I felt it was my responsibility to shine a little light into their darkness.
This was years ago. Many years ago.
What I learned is that people will cling to their ideas tighter than to their children. And any attempt to disentangle them from their fallacies will cause them to proclaim these fallacies in a louder voice so as to convince themselves.
The louder a person talks the more they are talking to themselves, not to you. The more their interrupt or refuse to let you speak, the stronger their need to be ‘right’.
There is no sense in anyone trying to talk a non-white person out of support for Trump if they support him. If Trump reintroduced slavery they would still support him.
Millions of people benefited from Obamacare. That they’ll lose it and have no care, well, they can die. They chose that. They want to die.
Why argue? Obviously they’ve given their brains over to their masters and will only listen to their masters.
In many cases you could have been there, you could have seen or heard or known, but the loud mouth, who wasn’t there, who didn’t see or hear or know, is making the most noise. You might try to educate, but what happens? More argument. So leave them in their darkness.
I know people who will tell a tale which is provably untrue. And I have seen the proof, and seen what happens when the proof is shown. The word that comes to mind is ‘reboot’ as they cease to speak, pause, then come back louder in the same nonsensical vein.
Many people have been deceived, and will be again. They ran to Bubblews and defended it with every drop of blood. They ran to Tinycents and did the same thing. That they will never learn from their mistakes is their problem. Sure, you might have made a post warning them, but what did that gather? Attack, stronger defence.
The same people who ripped by the old Bubble and Tinycents will be ripped off by another scam. You won’t.
Why argue?
Sure, if the person is known to you, and close to you, and you feel an obligation or connection, you might make a try, but if they prefer their ideas to you, leave them.
In Jamaica we have a saying; “When you argue with an idiot, it is hard to remember who is the idiot”.
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Silence is Gold as the saying goes. But, how long one should allow such people who bark in loud and stick to their own ideas without any reason. This is the ego problem. They can not be convinced. They do not accept. Even if one shows the proof with documentary evidence or practical proof they attributing the reason for some other thing and do not accept the mistake with their opinion or idea.
How to calm them down? This is one of the problems we come across in a society either with the people or in a group of friends.
The only way is to avoid them as the people say. But, just by avoiding these people we are allowing them to become made as they can not be in the company of anybody and
may suffer from mental illness which is not advisable.
What is the remedy then? The remedy lies in giving a patient hearing to such people reserving and analyzing our own views as sometimes the mistake lies with us also. In between the discussion try to ask him to give his opinion on the observation you have made after he stops speaking. This is the best way I have tried in a dynamic organization.
The response is... silence and removal. I don't need to argue with people who hold to a unsupported opinion which they become rabid about. They don't want to discuss they want to expel their views.
I won't bother again to tell those people I have warned before over something that they insist they know better. These people knows that you are right but won't budge to heed you because it would appear that you are better than them. They are arrogant and incorrigible , so why bother again , anyway.
that is right. They know better... fine... make their own mistakes.
Even me,I will not bother to argue with people,Its a waste of time.You will never win specially if you are dealing with bipolar or close minded people.Right they are arrogant and uncontrollable.They will never give you the chance to speak up,because they know that you now better than them.Just ignore and leave them. This is the right thing to do with this kind of people.
Exactly. They think they know... fine... I am not arguing.
LOL. I love that Jamaican expression! :) I remember one of my brothers once said: “You know you can learn a lot from watching a fool. You can learn how not to be a fool!” :) Similar to the point of your post.
Sometimes though, it's hard not to argue back. It takes a great deal of self-control. But over the years I have learned how to restrain myself. That's not to say I don't let an outburst slip, every now and then. But if a person is worked up about something that they are to the point of arguing over it … try to listen to them. Their words may be harsh. They may be abrasive. But they might also be saying something that make sense! If they are just talking crap, then you can dump it from your brain. No point retaining it, if it's useless! :)
A friend of mine who had been under pressure suddenly went insane when discussing an international issue which did not effect us at all. I said nothing. When he finished I said nothing. My expression had not changed.
There is a difference in a discussion and an argument.
What's the point of arguing when you are never going come to a resolution. Don't waste your time
I don't usually argue if things are not acceptable for me.There are so many things to consider before having arguments.In most cases, I don't usually entertain this kind of concern.Ignore is the best course of action in dealing with these people.It takes time for me to argue with someone.I need to have more time to know the root cause of the issue or concern.Once I had determined it, then that's the time I can give my piece.