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February 27, 2017 at 2:25 am

Now I’m going to Talk about Triond.

This was the Best Site.   Why?

Firstly they paid you, and you would also be paid via Adsense.

Secondly, they had a number of subsites; Webmd, if you were discussing medical/heath, Notecook, if you were doing recipes, Socyberty if you were dealing with cultural/social situations, on and on, so that each sub site looked as a separate site.

Triond always paid.  If you made 53c or $53 they always paid.

One could post poetry, fiction stories, news, and put in as many or as few images as one liked.

Okay… What happened?

Mod/No Mod

There were moderators who were more problem than passage.  They’d bounce items they didn’t like.  Not that there was something wrong with them.

So the Mods were bounced.

The A.I. they used instead was rubbish.  It blocked a lot of items which were perfectly acceptable, i.e. if you wrote about Breast Cancer, the item was marked ‘porn’.   If you quoted your source, your item was bounced for plagiarism.

This was taken care of…

Then came the Fake News.

One writer wrote a piece called ‘Johnny Depp commits suicide’…. (this was 2007).   He got a lot of hits.   Others decided to do the ‘White House Insider’  in 2009 to attack Barack Obama, and were so successful, they got their own subsite on Triond.

As there was no moderation and as Google wanted to introduce its free writing site Knol, Triond was slapped down as a ‘Content Farm’ and did nothing to fix itself.

In 2016 Triond went down without a word.

February 27, 2017 at 2:15 am

Thank You, I will… moving on to Triond

February 26, 2017 at 10:57 pm

I joined Hubpages about the same time as you did.  The earnings weren’t bad.  They collapsed in 2010.  After that 5c a month was pretty standard.

Why write so many words, so many images, and get so little?

And when you look at their ‘top’ stories, they are nothing I much care to read.

February 26, 2017 at 9:36 pm

If you Join Hubpages, you aren’t going to make much money.  The kind of stuff they publish which gets views, is as you say, niche.   If you find the niche and you are interested in that stuff… fine.  If you want to write what you want to write about, don’t expect many views.

They can’t rely on Google because they are the capital of Content Farms.  Further, with only Six Hundred and Sixty Thousand views, down from 12 Million, one has very little hope it will go up or even balance.

February 26, 2017 at 7:35 pm

Adblocker didn’t destroy Helium.   Helium did it all itself.  Who wants to waste time on such a site?  Imagine researching some topic, writing, posting….and your item is discarded. Nah.

February 26, 2017 at 7:33 pm

HubPages is still ‘active’, term used loosely.   It once paid fairly well, had many good writers, and had Twelve MIllion Hits a Month.   Twelve Million.   Getting 1k hits on an item was minor, as many writers got so much more.

The site demanded long articles with lots of images.

Then, in 2010, something happened.

The Top Writer stopped really writing interesting articles and created rubbish with lots of Keywords and S.E.O. terms, which would attract Google and coin from Google’s Adsense.

In those days, (seven years ago)  entering particular search terms would bring you to Hubpages as often as to Wikipedia.  This is because the ‘writers’ at Hubpages knew how to play Google.

Imagine an article of 1000k words which says NOthing.  But!  Is stuffed with Keywords.

Let us suppose today a lot of people are doing searches for ‘cheap flights’.  An article would be written in which the term “cheap flights” is used in almost every sentence.    The article said nothing..

Example

“All over the world people are interested in Cheap Flights.  People are doing searches every day for Cheap Flights.   I am sure you are interested in Cheap Flights…..”

The article will go on and on repeating this emptiness.

The next day;

“All over the world people are interested in Coconut Oil.   People are doing searches every day for Coconut Oil.  I am sure you are interested in Coconut Oil…”

Hubpages could have paid attention, tossed these items into the rubbish and kept a top site. But they didn’t.   The big effort they made was to encourage one writer to flag the work of another writer.

Now… I’ll deal with this ‘voting’ in another blog, but right now, one can see how pointless this is.

So, Hubpages is a ‘Content Farm’ and any article written there will not show up in the first 20 pages of a Google.  If your item doesn’t show up in a Google, how will people find you?  They won’t.

Hubpages has dropped from 12 Million hits a Month, to 6, to 3 and now has about 600k a month and going down.

Making 5c a month on Hubpages is standard.

February 26, 2017 at 6:17 pm

There were so many sites; and a great deal of quality items were published.  The quality kept Factoidz and Helium alive.  They had many hits.  Writing on Blogjob and not being paid is ridiculous.  It hasn’t starting paying yet, and it has been a long time… I think a year…

 

February 26, 2017 at 6:09 pm

Helium was another site.  In this one, you had to write on a set topic.   After you wrote your item would be ‘judged’ in comparison to other items on the same topic.  To submit an item one had to judge other items…

It was a ridiculous site which lasted way too long.   I  used it for ideas.   Often, if I had writer’s block I’d log onto Helium and see the various assignments they had.   And take one.  Or, I’d read the items written by others that were up for judgment and pick up other ideas, words, sentence flows, etc.

When Helium went down everyone was surprised it had lasted as long as it had.

Can you imagine writing a 1000k word item on a topic; i.e. “The significance of Anne Boylen in the English Monarchy” or, “The Myths of Red Roses,”  stuff that required research, and you submit it and it isn’t published… you don’t get 1c for it?

February 26, 2017 at 5:57 pm

One has to be alert.  When one sees a manipulation or a trick, they have to know what to do.  When a site is in America then one can contact a law enforcement agency which will shut them down.  With Bubblews, the two thieves who ran that one lived in America so they were a few steps from jail cell when they were shut down.

Like Quac, the Factoidz guy, Dixit and his pal Jason went on to diverse scams.

February 26, 2017 at 5:54 pm

What was the worst part was when he dropped one to ‘member’ the article was earning.   He was pocketing the money.  So you could see your article earning… but he would keep your money.

February 26, 2017 at 6:48 am

To get the ball rolling I want to discuss a site that went down perhaps ten years ago.  A site called Factoidz.

If you get on the wayback machine  (archive.org) you can take a glance at what it was when it was what it was.

There were many good articles which were well received.  Originally, Factoidz paid very well.  Then, the Owner got greedy.  He developed a fantastic plot on how to rip off his writers.

The process was simple; you would join as a member and write an article or two and depending on how good a writer you were,  you’d be elevated to ‘writer’ after those one or two items.  As writer you would earn.   If you were very good, you’d be elevated to Staff Writer; which meant the Mods didn’t need to review your work.

Earning $150 a month on Factoidz was no big deal.

People flocked to Factoidz.  They would solicit from Triond, Hubpages, Squidoo… and they would get the best work, for they PAID the most.

For some reason, the Owner decided to rip off the writers.  Decided to have his squad of Shills, and Goons go after a writer.

They’d attack for nothing.  One could be writing about a historical figure and every fact, date, event was good enough for a college thesis.  But the Goons would attack,   When the writer responded, he or she would be dropped a peg, that is go down from Staff Writer to Writer. If the user questioned, he or she would be dropped to ‘member’.

In Factoidz, ‘staff writers’ made the big money, ‘writers’ had to be moderated, and ‘members’ couldn’t post and couldn’t touch their coin.

Yup.

As soon as one was dropped to Member, their money, be it $100 or $1000 would be stolen by the owner.

When the writer revealed this on Hubpages or Triond, the Shills would attack and claim the reason the writer was ripped off was ‘Because You Broke The Rules!!’

This went on until the F.B.I. was activated.

Then the site went down.

The owner opened a site called Knoji.   You can take a glance at it, but don’t join.  It’s rubbish.

 

February 24, 2017 at 2:56 am

Yes, I happily found out that communicating on these forums and leaving comments on blogs counts.  It isn’t just a wrist flick.   This is a very good place to communicate with each other, learn about other countries.

As long as people are honest and appreciate the differences between us and the similarities, we can have a really good interaction.

February 19, 2017 at 9:32 pm

I also use Facebook

February 19, 2017 at 9:32 pm

I also use Flipbook and every millennium, Reddit

February 15, 2017 at 3:22 am

I can appreciate a ‘checker’ flagging an item which holds a quote, but any human glance will be able to distinguish that from plagiarism.  In fact, it makes the article more substantial when one can supply the authorities for the point being made.

 

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